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What do the letter designations for puppy litters mean? I breed Dutch horses and the letters correspond with the year for every horse born in a particular year (all horses born in 2010 started with "F") but clearly that's not the case with Dutch dogs. Is it based on the kennel or the bitch?
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Re: Litter Letters
In the USA, it is usually personal choice. A breeder can chose a letter per litter, so it would then be connected to the kennel(name)Aztechalo wrote:What do the letter designations for puppy litters mean? I breed Dutch horses and the letters correspond with the year for every horse born in a particular year (all horses born in 2010 started with "F") but clearly that's not the case with Dutch dogs. Is it based on the kennel or the bitch?
Some breeders have themes instead. And others have no system at all, and anything goes. In some (FCI ) countries, it is a letter per year for the entire registry and all dogs (of all breeds) born to that registry in that year. For example: France has an F year, this year.
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Re: Litter Letters
as an example - my DS is named Cino. His siblings are Cooper and Camo ... sorry forgot the other littermates names.
He is from the third litter of the kennel. Well technically the third DS litter of that kennel. When someone sees that the dog's registered name is Fuzzylicious Kennel Name ... they now it was from the sixth litter of that kennel.
Cino vom Foxtal is his registered name. But ... that doesn't mean it is his call name. Around the house I often call him Bug. Sometimes there other choice names I use. But I have yet to use the 40 pound food motivation method on him. Judith:
I went through a lot of names before the obvious one popped into my head. Cino is the son of Nico. which for some reason everyone wants to pronounce see-no.
He is from the third litter of the kennel. Well technically the third DS litter of that kennel. When someone sees that the dog's registered name is Fuzzylicious Kennel Name ... they now it was from the sixth litter of that kennel.
Cino vom Foxtal is his registered name. But ... that doesn't mean it is his call name. Around the house I often call him Bug. Sometimes there other choice names I use. But I have yet to use the 40 pound food motivation method on him. Judith:
I went through a lot of names before the obvious one popped into my head. Cino is the son of Nico. which for some reason everyone wants to pronounce see-no.
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Quit telling on me Eric! My food motivation techniques are -at times- slightly unconventional.
All kidding aside:
I would love to hear from other breeders and other countries how they go about naming their pups.
I use letters. It has helped me a lot, to be honest, because over time, I don't always remember who a pup was out of, unless I can determine the 'batch'.
All kidding aside:
I would love to hear from other breeders and other countries how they go about naming their pups.
I use letters. It has helped me a lot, to be honest, because over time, I don't always remember who a pup was out of, unless I can determine the 'batch'.
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Re: Litter Letters
Isn't that how you pronounce Cino?icvanstra wrote: Cino is the son of Nico. which for some reason everyone wants to pronounce see-no.
Seriously...if not, what is the correct pronounciation...
And, I see Nico as nee-ko. Is that wrong, too?
leih merigian
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I love the litter letter method myself. I have a lot of breeder friends who use it and I always know who is related to whom, and which dog is older or younger. Some of my other friends are enamoured of the "theme" names. OK, I am from the Dark Ages. What the heck is a "muscle car?" What's an exotic orchid? Can you name one? Elvis songs? I listen to classical, augh! I can handle the Star Trek litters. Not much else. I have a dog from "Pirates of the Caribbean" litter. Great, I have not seen those movies. Her name is Interceptor. Sounds like *that* could be a muscle car to ignorant me. If you are fond of keeping pedigree records, the letter thing is just a lot easier on older folks like me.
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Cino is - kee-noleih merigian wrote:Isn't that how you pronounce Cino?
Seriously...if not, what is the correct pronounciation...
And, I see Nico as nee-ko. Is that wrong, too?
And Nico is - nee-ko
...it's okay, I have spent my entire life with people not able to properly pronounce my last name. Although, we do have a few members on this board who do so more correctly than I do. When my parents came here the person at the immigration desk decided for them that a name with two words in it was not acceptable and changed the capitalization and condensed the name.
Once your SS card has been issues ... good luck trying to get it corrected.
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ow, I thought it was the spanisch way, as in Al pacino, Tjee-no...icvanstra wrote:
Cino is - kee-no
In Holland the breeder can decide which letter to use, most go from a-z, but I know one that uses the letters of the kennelname. So if the kennelname is "brindle" first litter is B, nest litter R etc. etc. Here in Germany you have to use the a-z method.
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Wow, is that different! It's amazing how much variation there is in this kind of convention.Marjolein wrote: In Holland the breeder can decide which letter to use, most go from a-z, but I know one that uses the letters of the kennelname. So if the kennelname is "brindle" first litter is B, nest litter R etc. etc. Here in Germany you have to use the a-z method.
Eric...thanks for the clue! So, it's just a hard "c." Works for me .
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Sorry I've been absent from the conversation. The kids killed my computer with a virus...I think it's very interesting that all the countries have different naming standards. Maybe it says something about the culture of the country.
Marsha and Chaos (4 yo, DS)
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I too have always thought it was see-no. Good thing you posted the correct way to say it, Eric!
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as in "in Holland anything goes" and "in Germany they still have structure" ?Aztechalo wrote:Sorry I've been absent from the conversation. The kids killed my computer with a virus...I think it's very interesting that all the countries have different naming standards. Maybe it says something about the culture of the country.