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Wes Thomas
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Tell us about yourself: I'm a first time DS owner... And now a lifetime owner of the breed. I have Karma.. she's almost 2 now and is incredible. Great protection dog for my family and the most athletic dog I've ever witnessed.

Finally.. after a year of searching

Post by Wes Thomas » Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:49 am

So trying to find another Dutch Shepherd in the South. Challenging..... Trying to find one in Georgia... Relatively tough, but trying to find the right breeding companion for Karma.... seemingly impossible but after months of looking and waiting for the right time I finally found the seemingly right mate for Karma's first litter. I didn't want to breed Karma with just another Malinois or the wrong temperament k9. So after networking I finally located "Kane". A beautiful Dutch Shepherd with a great owner who loves the breed as much as I do. Kane is very intelligent but doesn't have quiet the tenacity that Karma has so I'm hoping to have a great litter with a mix of their drives. They are very equal in size so the pups should deliver fine. So after 3 hours and 1 new muzzle later we finally had the 1st successful breeding of the two. I can't wait to see how Karma is as a mother and have a few new fun pups running around the property.
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Wes Thomas
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Tell us about yourself: I'm a first time DS owner... And now a lifetime owner of the breed. I have Karma.. she's almost 2 now and is incredible. Great protection dog for my family and the most athletic dog I've ever witnessed.

Re: Finally.. after a year of searching

Post by Wes Thomas » Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:50 am

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Mark77
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Re: Finally.. after a year of searching

Post by Mark77 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:24 am

They get most of their personality, drives, from their mother.

Wes Thomas
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Tell us about yourself: I'm a first time DS owner... And now a lifetime owner of the breed. I have Karma.. she's almost 2 now and is incredible. Great protection dog for my family and the most athletic dog I've ever witnessed.

Re: Finally.. after a year of searching

Post by Wes Thomas » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:29 pm

That's what I was told by a trusted local k9 handler. He said the drives and sense come from the mother. He told me to just get a good looking male for looks and that the males drive didn't really matter. But my trainer was adamant that I find the right male as well... I would love to hear some other opinions on this subject.

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Tell us about yourself: Living in Austin, Texas with our two dogs Zoey(DS) and Tripper(lab mix). In college, I worked as a Handler and Assistant Manager of a training and daycare facility for 3 years where I've handled many working dogs.
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Re: Finally.. after a year of searching

Post by borellar15 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:06 pm

So what are your plans? What do you plan to do with the litter? Are you keeping them and training them or selling them or? Are both dogs Akc registered?
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Mark77
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Re: Finally.. after a year of searching

Post by Mark77 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:00 pm

I only bred my dog twice. Once to a breeder in the US and once will be in Europe. Both were only with professional Dutch breeders, the dogs were registered on both ends, and had hips/elbows x-rayed, and had traceable bloodlines.

Wes Thomas
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Tell us about yourself: I'm a first time DS owner... And now a lifetime owner of the breed. I have Karma.. she's almost 2 now and is incredible. Great protection dog for my family and the most athletic dog I've ever witnessed.

Re: Finally.. after a year of searching

Post by Wes Thomas » Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:52 am

I plan on keeping one of the female pups just to keep my dogs bloodline around and to have another companion. I have two other people that are interested in a puppy that have the time and knowledge to handle a working k9. One is my trainer who has a couple of mals but has never had a dutchie and she has fallen in love with my dog Karma. The other is a relative who spends more time with Karma than anyone besides me. He is retired and owns 96 acres of farmland and has all the time in the world to devote to the right companion. I also plan on donating a pup to the local sheriff's department if the pups have the drive and ability like their mother. I do not care at all about making money off the litter. I make enough money with my company but I just want more people to learn and love the breed. Karma is registered and I have a lot of paperwork from her parents and grandparents and so forth to show her pedigree. The male I breed her with however is not akc registered but I do have his parents info, pics and the breeders info. But like I say I'm not breeding her to make money, rather just to spread her bloodline and try and introduce the breed in this area. Karma was purchased as a protection dog but has turned into so much more. Just an incredible physical speciman and a companion.

Mark77
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Re: Finally.. after a year of searching

Post by Mark77 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:31 pm

Well they were originally bred to be farm dogs. At the very least test both dogs around livestock. Test them around gunfire with the dog tied off next to you ordered in a down stay, specifically to see if they bark or react in other negative ways. If they react negatively to either gunfire or livestock- then that would eliminate them for further breeding. That was at least among some of the basic tests Cher Car Kennels put my dog through in addition to searching and testing basic bite work as they won't breed nervy dogs or livestock aggressive dogs.

Wes Thomas
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Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:04 am
Tell us about yourself: I'm a first time DS owner... And now a lifetime owner of the breed. I have Karma.. she's almost 2 now and is incredible. Great protection dog for my family and the most athletic dog I've ever witnessed.

Re: Finally.. after a year of searching

Post by Wes Thomas » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:38 pm

That's good advice Mark. Karma completely ignores any livestock including smaller animals such as rabbits and squirrels and cats for that matter. When I first picked her up and she was still younger she didn't like gunshots but now she completely ignores them and has nerves of steel lol but I shoot very often and she's always right with me. But the male I am not certain about gunfire. I know he is other dog friendly which is odd to me for the breed. But I will certainly take these things into consideration and find out more

Mark77
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Re: Finally.. after a year of searching

Post by Mark77 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:58 pm

You should try at least register the parents into the database so that way the new owners can register their dogs later. Within a few generations, you might be eligible to register dogs with the UKC. If you decided to compete with the dogs or breed some of the offspring down the road it's a good idea to have some sort of traceable lineage. Here's one of my dog Riddick's pups and you can see the pedigree goes back a long way on both sides.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dutch_s ... s-of-chaos

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