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I don't believe it's possible to transmit (or contract) the virus in this community, so I am encouraging a little extra communication here for several days.

You pick the topic - DS or not.

Do you have enough TP? :lol:

How does your DS feel about all this? :roll:

Pictures are encouraged. :wtg:

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We had to have our old bull terrier put to sleep this week at 16 years old which is a really good age. Pepsi is really behaving quite strangely which I hope will pass. Very upsetting losing a dog after so many years. Will post a few pics of them together later. Jay

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A very recent picture, they secretly got on quite well . Jay

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Wow Jay. Really sorry for your loss.

I am sure Pepsi will come around. Maybe a little extra play time will be good for both of you.
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centrop67 wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:26 pm
Wow Jay. Really sorry for your loss.

I am sure Pepsi will come around. Maybe a little extra play time will be good for both of you.
Thanks myself and wife will be fine we knew it was time to let her go. Ruby had been struggling for a while but since the weekend she really went down hill.
Pepsi is very independent and generally doesn’t spend much time with us in the evenings where as Ruby layed on my wife’s lap every night for her entire life.
So a new chapter starts in Pepsi’s life to start to integrate with the family more, time will tell. Jay

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She was a nice one
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That is the hard part of having older dogs. Peanuts' time is coming and I let my mom know I can't be the one to take him this time.

I'm sorry to hear about Ruby.
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Today was Bramble's first hospital visit. She did great....even though we had to park on the opposite side from where we needed to be and had to cut through the hospital.
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Jay knowles wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:23 pm
We had to have our old bull terrier put to sleep this week at 16 years old which is a really good age. Pepsi is really behaving quite strangely which I hope will pass. Very upsetting losing a dog after so many years. Will post a few pics of them together later. Jay
I had to put my older Shepherd, Aurora down just before Christmas. Endeavor acted a little weird for a couple days. She's a little more focused on me now. Not that she played much with Aurora for the past year.
It'll get better man. Sorry for your loss. Hang in there.
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Jay, so sorry for your loss, very sad :(
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I was wondering about how the coronavirus was affecting anyone currently in training group classes or clubs, upcoming events, etc. if they've been cancelled or people considering not going? The next scent work class starts towards end of March and I'm debating going. It's not just about whether I could get it in a group class, it's also about well what if I end up getting sick then can't even go to any classes. Maybe that's overreacting, don't know.
I also do have to deal with a medical issue with Laszlo right now. He hurt his back right leg this week, I think while running after the ball. When it happened he ran back towards me doing this high pitched awful whine and holding up his leg. I thought at first he had one of those prickly weeds stuck in his foot, but nothing. Then he seemed to be okay and walked fine, no limp. Then the next day he did it again. Plus he wouldn't even look at the ball, no interest. He just stayed close by me, looking like he was afraid of doing something wrong. Today I brought a different ball on a rope just for him to carry (not run after). He did do that. But when he saw Idna running towards her tug, he took a couple bounds then turned and came right back to me and flopped on his back, belly up like he's saying "I submit, please don't hurt me any more". His body language seems to say he thinks I'm the one causing him the pain, like he's doing something wrong. Breaks my heart to see. I need to get him to the vet. I just don't know how to make him realize it's not me doing it. Idna has never reacted like that when she got hurt. I don't know if Laszlo associates pain with a human causing it because of something prior. I feel really bad about all of this though.

This morning at park. Idna rolling in the wet dirty grass (it's been raining for the past couple of days here). Don't know why her pink belly looks white there. Laszlo ignoring his ball :(
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No TP here, or paper towels, or kleenex...
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The UK is going a bit mad with all this. My wife happens to own a contract cleaning company so we have all the toilet rolls and hand jell you could ever wish for. In the UK people are going mad for all this type of stuff which I don’t really understand. Still walking Pepsi every day, she’s like a Covid-19 repellant, no one comes anywhere near us. Jay

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For some reason when we just take Bramble out, people avoid her. They will ask about her, but not reach out and touch.....until she has her service dog gear on. Then suddenly everyone wants to pet her. So strange.

Sel, I can't speak from a dog perspective, but have experienced something similar with children. I hate to say it, but I think it comes from hypervigilance. When someone, or in this case some dog, experiences neglect and abuse, the entire world is threatening and unpredictable, and you are part of that world. Neglect and abuse set cause and effect off kilter, which makes it hard to know who or what causes pain. When my son first came to me, we were out and it started raining. He got so mad at me he clawed my contacts out. He really thought I was then one getting him wet....and I've had other kids get really upset with me when they trip or get a normal bump. Plus, now you are Lazlo's rock, his rescuer, his, well, god, of course you control everything.

Children and I suspect animals that have experienced neglect and abuse often don't even realize when they experience pain, frankly (terribly) because they get used to it. Could be that Lazlo is hurting consistently and you just can't see it.

We had to cancel my son's birthday party. It wouldn't have been a huge gathering, but almost all of the kids have underlying medical conditions. He is going to be bummed when he realizes he didn't get his Godzilla party.

We do private training, but I would think a small class, especially outside would be fine with proper precautions. After all, it's not like handlers and dogs get that close to each other anyway.
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Ladyjubilee I'm sorry about your son's birthday party, that sucks :( I hope he still has a good birthday and isn't too upset. I would take the same precaution if it was my daughter.
I'm surprised people will approach Bramble to pet her when she has her service dog vest ON. Seems that's when people shouldn't interfere with a dog that is doing a job. What do you tell people then?
When I've had Laszlo at an outdoor mall a couple times there were people that would come right up and stick their hand in his face without even asking! I don't like people doing that. Even though with Idna she could care less, with Laszlo he is nervous, especially if a man gets close. People should know better about approaching strange dogs.
You are very right about how negative treatment in the past affects behavior. Laszlo's behavior does seem to be hypervigilance sometimes. He is jumpy and has this nervous energy. When we are out he is super aware of everything. At the park, up til now he would focus his nervous energy into the ball. If the ball is not out he doesn't know what to do with himself. He'll take some steps away with a nervous, unsure body posture and then come back, and keep doing that. Idna and him are like night and day. She will happily walk around the park, eat grass, roll in grass, lie down and just hang out. Laszlo can't do that, he can't relax. He's also scared to make a misstep and get in trouble. But he has improved and I think Idna is a big help because she is not scared of anything and doesn't have all this nervous energy. When we're out I think she helps put him at ease. I don't think he ever got to just enjoy being a dog or do anything without being overdisciplined and now he's nervous and scared to do something wrong.
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We had to make the decision about Peanuts today. He started crying in his sleep last night which was the first time he appeared to be in pain. We've been seeing s steady decline, and decided now was the time, before a crisis. I think it was the right decision. I waited to long with Gotcha and she suffered because I just didn't want to let her go.

As far as what I say, I tell Bramble leave it, and say she is working....or cave. It depends on how my son is doing. If he's having a moment or could escalate, I just go with it.

At least with kids, the only way to get past hypervigilance is be consistent and have clear boundaries. Bring order to chaos. Isn't a magic fix, but does help.my guess is it would help a dog too.
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So sorry you had to make that choice. Man... Seems like a strange time for us all these past few months.
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ladyjubilee wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:12 am
We had to make the decision about Peanuts today.
Sorry for your loss.
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ladyjubilee wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:12 am
We had to make the decision about Peanuts today.
So sorry for your loss :(
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SEL wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:36 pm
ladyjubilee wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:12 am
We had to make the decision about Peanuts today.
sorry far you’re loss I know how you feel. Jay

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