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A lesson in Learning Theory
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Re: A lesson in Learning Theory
If a pack of wolves encounters a bear that has cubs and shes pissed and they have to fight and one pack member shows fear and cowers the rest of the pack is not stopping to comfort that animal
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Re: A lesson in Learning Theory
when Sadie is shaking and cowering in the corner of the couch, neither of my other dogs went to go to her.
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Re: A lesson in Learning Theory
That's because they are assholes and should be comforting her lmaoDutchringgirl wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:23 pm when Sadie is shaking and cowering in the corner of the couch, neither of my other dogs went to go to her.
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Re: A lesson in Learning Theory
Steve Gossmeyer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:35 pmThat's because they are assholes and should be comforting her lmaoDutchringgirl wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:23 pm when Sadie is shaking and cowering in the corner of the couch, neither of my other dogs went to go to her.
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Re: A lesson in Learning Theory
I understand the logic and the reasoning. I agree. I think it makes sense to let the dog know that it, itself is going to be ok. And I think you do that best by focusing on you and redirecting.Dutchringgirl wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:15 pm they do have emotion, that is not the discussion. Sadie smiles, they love to get attention etc. It is when they are showing fear and we tell them that its okay. That petting them and telling them that 'its ok" really lets them know its okay and not to be afraid , or , that it reinforces the fear response.
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Re: A lesson in Learning Theory
Duh.Steve Gossmeyer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:28 pm If a pack of wolves encounters a bear that has cubs and shes pissed and they have to fight and one pack member shows fear and cowers the rest of the pack is not stopping to comfort that animal
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Re: A lesson in Learning Theory
yes, the redirecting is what we were saying will work, telling them it will be okay, tells them that the fear response is ok, not that "it is going to be ok"TimL_168 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:03 amI understand the logic and the reasoning. I agree. I think it makes sense to let the dog know that it, itself is going to be ok. And I think you do that best by focusing on you and redirecting.Dutchringgirl wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:15 pm they do have emotion, that is not the discussion. Sadie smiles, they love to get attention etc. It is when they are showing fear and we tell them that its okay. That petting them and telling them that 'its ok" really lets them know its okay and not to be afraid , or , that it reinforces the fear response.
Lisa, Thalie CGC & Sadie, Cookie the Basset, CT