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Some rough coat pictures from our dogs, in the past as well as in the present:

Present, Mike:

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Together with Floor, she grew up with Mike:

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Floor:

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And at last a "family"picture with our Laekenois:

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More great pics!

Your Laekenois seems alot hairier than the few here that I have met in the US.

Love the white face! Older dogs are the best.
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Jan. Lovely pictures, as always. 8-)
Do you have any with a recently groomed (plucked) DS in it? Since that seems to be when they show the fact that they are indeed brindle? ;)
Most members here have never seen a rough coated DS, hence my question.
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Judith, I was just wondering about their brindling and also what texture the coat actually has as in is it coarse, soft, wirey? What grooming is necessary? I have never seen a rough coat in person. Are there any other differences both physical and temperament? I am just curious although anything with coat here in Louisiana is not suggested unless it is shaved close.


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vneerland wrote:Jan. Lovely pictures, as always. 8-)
Do you have any with a recently groomed (plucked) DS in it? Since that seems to be when they show the fact that they are indeed brindle? ;)
Most members here have never seen a rough coated DS, hence my question.
I think i do Judith, I'll search for them and show them here.
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Before being groomed:

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and after:

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Before:

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After:

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At the job ( he never liked it):

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The remains:

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About the differnces, rough coated ones are sad to be the clowns amongst the DS, they have a very special character and are rather stubborn, obstinate. But to be honest I haven't any experience with te other breeds.Their fur feels really soft.
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Thank you Jan.
The coat is traditionally plucked, no clipppers allowed ;) So the grooming is just the tedious pulling of dead hair.
The coat is indeed soft. I do think that the rough haired version, along with the long haired ones, are more 'easy going' as compared to the (working line) short hairs. But in the end, like with any breed or variety, temperament is still an individual thing. :D
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Jan,

Thanks for the photo's they are great!

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Well, I have that on my 'bucket list' to one day meet personally a Rough Coat DS! And if they are the clowns of the bunch, even more reason to! Thanks for sharing and educating.


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GSDNanny wrote:Well, I have that on my 'bucket list' to one day meet personally a Rough Coat DS! And if they are the clowns of the bunch, even more reason to! Thanks for sharing and educating.


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I was looking at the photo you put in the monthly contest.

From the photo it looks like they are already exhibiting a different coat...at what age does the rough coat really start to show?
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Between about a few months old and at the age of one they allready have that curly fur. This is a photo from Mike when he was six months old and allthough it is from a poor quality you can clearly notice the difference in fur which make them rough coats:

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And this image shows him at the age of one:

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Another photograph shows both Floor (she was at the time just about five months of age) and Mike when he was one and a half years old. It's a poor quality again, sorry for that, but you can see the rough coat at Floor quiet good I think:

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Jannumbernext wrote:
GSDNanny wrote:Well, I have that on my 'bucket list' to one day meet personally a Rough Coat DS! And if they are the clowns of the bunch, even more reason to! Thanks for sharing and educating.


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Or 'caught' forever! They are very intriguing, I must say. Since most of my dogs are 'wash n wear' type coats except for the German Shedders, does the coat on the Rough's continue to lengthen as in hair dogs? What would happen if it is just brushed on a normal basis rather than 'plucked'? Seriously, I really dont know. Ya'll dont laugh ok! Just saying...... :g_wink:


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aww, Mike was a real pretty boy 8-) 8-)
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GSDNanny wrote:
Jannumbernext wrote:
GSDNanny wrote:Well, I have that on my 'bucket list' to one day meet personally a Rough Coat DS! And if they are the clowns of the bunch, even more reason to! Thanks for sharing and educating.


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Or 'caught' forever! They are very intriguing, I must say. Since most of my dogs are 'wash n wear' type coats except for the German Shedders, does the coat on the Rough's continue to lengthen as in hair dogs? What would happen if it is just brushed on a normal basis rather than 'plucked'? Seriously, I really dont know. Ya'll dont laugh ok! Just saying...... :g_wink:


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The hair falls of, it comes loose (if that is the right word). When you go brushing them you remove the curls. That is why they don't need much care, we have them plucked every seven months, that's all. Underneath the new fur has already started to grow.
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I love this picture! It clearly shows the brindle in the coat. Once he is an adult, it truly no longer shows, like in most of the rough haired DS's.
Awesome. 8-)
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Jannumbernext wrote:The hair falls of, it comes loose (if that is the right word). When you go brushing them you remove the curls. That is why they don't need much care, we have them plucked every seven months, that's all. Underneath the new fur has already started to grow.
I do know what you mean. I can actually pluck some of my short haired dogs at times. But I think, what Denise might mean, is if you would still have the loose hair to pluck out, if you brushed them daily? Understood, that they would not show the curls (but more of a loose looking fluff) but would they ever develop enough 'pluckable' coat if you thorougly brushed every day?
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I do think so myself because the hair will be ''dead'' en that has to be removed, you don't brush it out completely. On the other hand, it is wat you prefer personally. If you chooce not to remove it or just bit by bit that makes their apperance a whole lot less attractive (to me). Like a tramp, sort of.
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This photograph of Mike, at the age of two and plucked, shows clearly that roughcoats are real DS, don't you think so? The shape of his head cannot be mistaken I think;

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Trying to get some help finding a rough coated pup or young adult ....

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