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Having problems with platz
Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:21 am
by BishonVonAachen
So we've been doing mostly marker training and have come a long way from the land shark that walked down the street side ways attached to my pants leg.
Fuss needless to say has been an easy position thus far to teach, letting go of pants legs well that is a work in progress. Which was much helped by giving him a tug or ball to carry while walking. He has also picked up sitz, hier, and lass es very quickly but the problem we have been having is with platz.
I'll be trying to post a video a little later as a visual aid but so far we've just started on working on luring him into position but he'll get his front feet down but his butt stays up in the air. When guiding his butt down his front end pops up much like a teeter totter. I tried to lure him under my legs while I was sitting on the floor but have not had much success with this. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated it.
Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:59 am
by dutchringdog
Sadie would do the same thing, I would put a treat in my hand and my hand on the floor and the front would go down and the butt would stay up. I just waited her out and didnt move until the butt went down, then marked it then treat. If his front comes up just try waiting him out until the whole body is down.
Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 2:31 pm
by k9katet
You could lure with food in both hands and your hands together and push under the dog's nose and into his chest. You want them to fold back into the down. Then the butt should go down first.
What is "lass es"?
Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 3:27 pm
by Christie M
k9katet wrote:
What is "lass es"?
I believe it's "Leave it."
Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 3:48 pm
by dutchringdog
k9katet wrote:You could lure with food in both hands and your hands together and push under the dog's nose and into his chest. You want them to fold back into the down. Then the butt should go down first.
I like that better, we taught them to do that with back tying.
Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 5:22 pm
by Christie M
You could also break the position down and shape it. Reward just a shoulder shift until that is consistent. Then reward perhaps a small movement of the paw...whatever is offered up as a next small part of moving into the down without bringing the butt up.
Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 8:17 pm
by Kristie E
@Christie, I have used that method to teach Gwen other things besides platz. That is how I taught Gwen how to "put your head down." I taught Gwen down from the sit so her but was already on the floor. I led her down from the sit with food to her chest. We had issues when we started and sometimes I would get sit instead of down but with time and repetition ...
Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:52 pm
by Dutchringgirl
I did that today with Sadie and it worked, she moved back then down. I too do the down from sit so one end is already down, it still pops up sometimes but its a whole lot better.
Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:28 pm
by BishonVonAachen
You could lure with food in both hands and your hands together and push under the dog's nose and into his chest. You want them to fold back into the down. Then the butt should go down first.

Thanks it clicked after you said it, after waiting a little bit and some backing up we are back on track and molding a wonderful platz. I'm glad that I found this forum as its been a bit since I had a puppy and not some how talked into helping to save a misunderstood yet very cute adolescent pup.

So thank you again

Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:34 pm
by BishonVonAachen
[quote=What is "lass es"?:[/quote]
Yes, it is leave it.
Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:24 pm
by Marjolein
Try saying "af" it is afterall a Dutch shepherd, not a GERMAN shepherd

ahhhahaha, crack myself up

Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 10:01 pm
by BishonVonAachen

Well my dutch needs a lot more work and practice, while my german is pretty proficient.
Soon as I figure out the software for my camera I'll post the nonsense of my DUTCH shepherd doing german commands.
:dswink"

Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 10:31 pm
by Marjolein
I look forward to hearing you speek German, it is pretty hard for english/american speaking because of the hard "G" :dswink"
Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 9:54 pm
by BishonVonAachen
I'm not really sure if it would be really hard for someone who learned english first to learn german second.

I grew up in a duel household so I learned both at the same time as a child. I don't have many people around to use my german with so I've forgotten some of it but I've recently been using it more often.
Herzlichen Gluckwunsch zum Muttertag an alle mutter hier.

Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:40 pm
by Marjolein

I'm so impressed! I'm not a mom, but Ivil is, and she is very content with your wishes

Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 5:08 am
by Sugars Mom
Ummm, I don't know German...how about a translation?

Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 6:44 am
by BishonVonAachen
Herzlichen Gluckwunsch zum Muttertag an alle mutter hier
Translation Congratulations on mothers day to all the mothers on here. Marjolein, you are a mom,

just happen to have kids of the four legged variety instead of the two legged ones.

Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 6:39 pm
by Sugars Mom
Thanks...

Re: Having problems with platz
Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 7:55 pm
by Marjolein
BishonVonAachen wrote:Herzlichen Gluckwunsch zum Muttertag an alle mutter hier
Translation Congratulations on mothers day to all the mothers on here. Marjolein, you are a mom,

just happen to have kids of the four legged variety instead of the two legged ones.

I'm pretty sure I'm not their mom
